Cover art for R.I.P. Dr. Octagon by Dr. Dooom

R.I.P. Dr. Octagon

Sep. 23, 20081 viewer

R.I.P. Dr. Octagon Lyrics

[Intro]
Yo, whassup? This is Dr. Dooom
I know I killed Dr. Octagon
Now, how they gon' come back with some type of return?
That's why I'm back
I'mma put the finishing touches on this guy
You witness the execution
("Rest in peace"*)

[Verse 1]
This is a true story—how I put the clamp on Octagon
Drowned him in the water until he was gone
Then he came back alive
I stabbed him over 17 times
But you people out there wouldn't let him die
Y'all put him on the respirator
The critics that gave him mouth to mouth—resuscitation was a hater
Dreamworks signed him to a major
Tony Isobel and Dan wanted to adopt him from the hospital
Again—Two weeks later, Dr. Octagon was dead
Electrocuted by electric razor
Octagon is gone, this image was pawned (Clearance rack)
Every now and then I go visit him in the cemetery
On and on

[Hook: Dr. Dooom + sample]
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
[Verse 2]
Me and Kurt seen him at the hospital yesterday
I pulled the plug out on Dr. Oc'
He was good as the creator, but a bunch of people didn't know
I beat him to death with rocks
In a sock, left him for dead on some alternative block
With some bad parents from Germany and Swiss
That wanted him to go candy-pop—something called candy-hop
The world was forcin' a nightmare down people's throats
That had to stop!
They got excited every time somethin' that was created in three days (That's quick)
Would drop
A Yoo-Hoo and donuts
I had two hundred thousand people goin' so nuts
To the extreme, they tried to duplicate the same record
I had to check it

[Hook: Dr. Dooom + sample]
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
[Verse 3]
With all the rock bands offering their condolences
To the producers of The Return
I had to overshadow their credits, and wait my turn
On the worthless, now Dr. Dooom has risen, after this
The universe will hear the long-awaited LP
The truth and the surface
To be announced, the massage on your brain
Plus the sabotage

[Hook: Dr. Dooom + sample]
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased
No wack remixes or duplicated copies
("Rest in peace") Octagon is deceased

[Outro]
Octagon is deceased

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“R.I.P Dr. Octagon” is a track based on the aftermath of how Keith felt the name and project was handled after he fell out with Dan The Automator and later, a follow-up album entitled “The Return Of Dr. Octagon” which was produced entirely without Keith’s involvement.

To add a little backstory to what happened with Dr. Octagon, numerous stories are explained that the project was originally started between Keith and Kutmasta Kurt and Sir Melenik in around 1994, DTA caught wind of the project as he let Kurt and Keith use his studio, inserted himself into the project and the after the release of Octagon he cut Keith was cut with royalties, not to mention effectively removing Kutmasta Kurt and Sir Melenik on the project. Further negativity would sour the project although it was a critically acclaimed album by the press. As they were supposed to perform as a “band” in 1997 for Lollapalooza Keith mysteriously disappeared (it was explained he was contracted for work in Europe, which explains why he appears on Prodigy’s Fat of the land album) and Dan was ready to replace him with J-Live and Sadat X.

the performance never happened, which led most people to believe the partnership between Keith and Automator had come to a close and with this, Keith would kill the character off as the introductory track on his first Dr Dooom album.

fast forward to 2002, Thornton announced The Resurrection of Dr. Octagon, a proposed sequel to Dr. Octagonecologyst that would reintroduce the character. Los Angeles-based producer Fanatik J was chosen to create the music for the album. Thornton himself took part in the production of early material for the project, playing bass, guitar, and keyboards on many of the tracks. As production on the album was underway, Thornton had a falling out with Fanatik J over contract rights. Thornton referred to Fanatik J as “greedy” and stated that “He went out of his level of producer’s ranking. Maybe he thought he was an overnight Quincy Jones, that he was the Automator.”] Fanatik J later engaged in a legal battle with CMH over contractual terms that did not give him input on remixes.

Following Fanatik J’s disputes with the label, CMH contacted San Francisco-based producer John Lindland and Melbourne-based producers Simon Walbrook and Ben Green to produce material for the album. This would lead to this track’s premise. Keith although in later years distanced himself from the Octagon name and projects did later use the Octagon name for a collaboration with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, which later led to reconciling with Dan The Automator to do a successful follow-up to the Dr Octagon album, with it proclaiming to be the “real” second album.

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Is there an official video?
Genius Answer

Yes—here.

What did Dr. Dooom say about "R.I.P. Dr. Octagon"?
Genius Answer

Kool Keith and KutMasta Kurt spoke on the song in their 2008 The A.V. Club interview.

Kool Keith:

I was just thinking about Octagon in general. I was pissed off about it. Dr. Octagon 2, the way it was handled, them taking advantage of the project. Not putting it out for five years and doing remixes the way they wanted to and hiring all types of people and stuff. I was really pissed. I’m one of those artists that people take my music without my consent. People love to snatch my music and do things on their own. You got people that put me on beats I never rapped on. I just feel that it’s a bad thing.

KutMasta Kurt:

I wasn’t really super-involved, but from what I understand, there were some sort of masters that were floating around—I don’t know when they were recorded—that a label got hold of. A producer was involved with the project; for whatever reason, the label and producer couldn’t come to an agreement. So they said, “Forget him, we’ll just remix the whole album.” So they stripped off all the vocals, found this other producer team… As a creative person, Keith’s very sensitive about his art. Sort of like if you painted a painting of something and somebody went and painted over it, that’s how he felt on that project. The Dr. Octagon character was rapping over sounds that were dark and sinister, but they turned the album into this dancey electro-pop. A lot of it had this Euro-dance feel, and I was like, ‘Wait a second, not only did they change the music, they changed it into something that couldn’t relate.’ I think we might’ve been on a flight somewhere in Europe in December 2006, and he was saying, ‘This record doesn’t even sound like an Octagon record.’ And people wanted us to perform some of the songs, and Keith was like, ‘I’m not really feeling the style and sound. They’re not really related.’ I said, ‘Well, you want to bring Dr. Dooom back?’ Without that album, we wouldn’t have made this album. There would have been no need for Dr. Dooom to come back.

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September 23, 2008
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