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The morning after President Joe Biden faced off against former President Donald Trump in the first of two televised presidential debates, the ladies of The View convened to share their reactions — and the mood at the table was sobering.
“It was really hard to watch,” Sara Haines said. “It pains me to say this today, but I think President Biden needs to step down and be replaced if we want to defeat Donald Trump in November.” Haines suggested that the Democratic Party “pushed for an earlier debate so they have time to change course if needed,” adding that his poor performance cannot — and should not — be explained away.
“Democrats need to stop spinning the age problem,” she continued. “A lot of people are concerned with his age. Over and over, Democrats have twisted themselves into a pretzel [saying that his age doesn’t matter]. Even at this table, we’ve said, ‘Look, Joy is 81!’ But Joy Behar at 81 is not Joe Biden at 81, and that was on full display last night.” (As you can imagine, Behar was thrilled to have her age become part of the discussion.)
Alyssa Farah Griffin, who contributed to CNN’s debate coverage on Thursday night, said she was “genuinely shocked” by Biden’s performance, admitting that it was “stunningly worse than I expected.” She clarified that “Donald Trump was a mess” and “lied his way through,” but she feels that “Biden’s performance was so bad, it eclipsed everything [he] said.”
Griffin also echoed Haines’ concerns about Biden remaining the party’s nominee, saying, “We need someone who can beat him. … He needs to put country before his own ambitions and step aside.” Griffin, who served as Director of Strategic Communications while Trump was in office, claimed that the Republican Party “knows that any other Democrat will wipe the floor with Donald Trump. If it’s Trump versus Biden, Trump is going to win.”
Sunny Hostin agreed that “Biden lost that debate” and conceded that “maybe he needs to go. Maybe he needs to be honest with himself and the American people. He can bow out with grace and dignity. He has a record that he can be proud of.” However, she also noted that “it’s ironic that [Democrats] are the only party talking about replacing our nominee.”
REACTION TO FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE: @JoyVBehar, @sarahaines, @ananavarro, @Sunny and @Alyssafarah weigh in on how Pres. Biden and former Pres. Trump performed. https://t.co/cVclFZQmjA pic.twitter.com/UgBL9kL1P0
— The View (@TheView) June 28, 2024
In fact, the only co-host who even came close to saying that Biden should remain the Democratic nominee was Ana Navarro, who has known Biden for more than two decades.
“I’ve never seen Joe Biden like I saw him last night,” Navarro said. “It was worrisome. But until Joe Biden tells me he’s giving up, I’m not giving up on Joe Biden. He looked elderly, he sounded elderly, he is elderly, but the choice is no different — it’s a very old man versus a very bad man.”
Calling Trump a “machine gun of lies,” Navarro added, “I’m not going to judge Joe Biden on 90 bad minutes. I’m going to judge [him] on his lifetime career of putting this country first, putting you first and putting women’s rights first.”
As far as which politician could potentially replace Biden, the co-hosts brought up names like California Governor Gavin Newsom, though Behar questioned whether conservative voters would find him “too liberal,” and Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, though Hostin admitted, “I don’t know if this country is ready for a gay president.” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was also mentioned with no objections.
It is hilarious that the party that screams “democracy is on the ballot” is so frightened at the idea of democracy in action and them losing a vote.
The elites do not know better than the average person. Every person in the country has their vote count the same, rich or poor. That’s what is great about America
If Trump wins that is democracy in action. You can’t just support democracy when your party wins.
Then please explain 2020 to me. Trump lost, yet most Republicans refuse to believe it.
Almost like The Insurrection didn’t happen. Trump supporters are not ok.
It didn’t.
Please explain in detail how the results of the 2020 Election could have been changed on that day.
Who cares if someone doesn’t “concede” an election?
Tell that to the families of the capital policemen who died as a result of the events on Jan. 6th.
That was a quick conversation since there were none.
The policeman? The only cop was the one that shot himself. In his car. That the guy you talking about?
Because it undermines the entire legitimacy of the election process. He provoked people to lose faith that their vote would be properly counted and they broke into the capitol to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. Congress had to hide from a mob.
The republicans and Trump make people feel fear because when they are afraid, they will accept limiting people’s freedoms and voices to feel safe. As Bertram Russel said ‘First, they fascinate the fools, then they muzzle the intelligent’.
I WISH everyone’s vote counted. I do not live in a swing state and we have very few electoral votes. My one vote WILL NOT change the way my state goes (I won’t say which way), but I will vote none the less. It’s way past time that the “battleground state” to have more power than other places.
Every person in the country doesn’t have their vote count the same. The Electoral College and the Senate ensure that. Even if the E.C. was abolished, the Senate would remain inherently unfair. States with tiny populations like Wyoming wield equal power to states with massive populations like California or even Texas. Giving a small number of people outsized influence over much larger numbers, sometimes by a factor of ten or more (e.g. North Dakota pop. 770,000, New York pop. 20 million — but both are represented by two senators.)
California, Illnois, and New York would control elections if the EC is demolished so if you don’t live in those states your vote won’t matter.
It would be better than 5 states with small populations and tiny economic impact deciding the election for the other 45.
It’s really a shame a major tv network will air shows such as View that are clearly slanted towards one political party. And don’t start on me about Fox. ABC is a major, over the air, station. Fox news is not. It’s shows like these that feed the partisan beast.
CBS and NBC are also liberal
Agreed.
Experts!!!
Morons. All of them. Biden is the only person who can beat Trump. If we run a younger candidate, Trump and the GOP will scare older voters. They can’t accuse Biden of planning to strip mine older generations to fund the frivolous lifestyle of younger generations.
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Trump began attacking Biden in 2018, long before Biden announced a run. HE DID THAT FOR A REASON. Biden is the only person who Trump is scared of who can run.
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Would I love a younger, dynamic, charismatic, talented candidate as an alternative to Biden? Sure. There isn’t one.
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Liberal group 1 prefers candidate A to Biden. Liberal Group 2 prefers candidate B to Biden. LG1 won’t vote for candidate B, and LG2 won’t vote for candidate A.
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Lots of Libs want a different candidate than Biden. But they can’t agree on which candidate that should be. Vehemently so. To the point where various groups/interests won’t coalesce. Biden is the best compromise candidate at this point.
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If you like DT more than Biden, good luck with that. Ask progressives about their belief from 2016 that Hilary wouldn’t have been any better than Trump, and about how liberals were just fear mongering about the Supreme Court and the safety of Roe. ASK LADIES HOW THAT WENT.
The numbers don’t line up with what you’re saying. Voter turnout and swing voters win elections. All the data says voters are extremely dissatisfied with both candidates and want another option.
There’s no world in which Biden lost the debate. Trump didn’t even answer a single GD question.
The view ladies need to top panicking and shut up. They are not helping.
“They are not helping…”
Why should alleged journalists, in reality TV analysts “help” one campaign.
The View is an opinion show, not news.
The View is a public service announcement for the Democratic Party.
It’s okay Berry, we know you like Trump because he’s exactly like you. He holds the same disgusting opinions that you do so you see yourself in him. You’ve probably engaged in the same behaviors too: lying, adultery and actual criminal behaviors like rape, etc.
I can understand why someone like you would want Trump as President.
Then obviously, you’re not living in the real world! Because the whole world knows Biden lost last night!
I assure you, Riley, the whole world doesn’t believe that.
Just delusional MAGA and people like these view ladies that are panicking for no reason at all!
Because he had to respond to the ridiculous claims coming out of Biden’s mouth: Charlottsville (dubunkd so many times, and again by SNOPES just days ago), “suckers and losers” (debunked numerous times), no soldiers lost during my tenure…not one (except for the 13 who died during the Afghan withdrawal), did not inherit a good economy (only the best performing economy ever….and energy independent), beat inflation because we have the best job record (newsflash: you can be 100% employed (even if you include bouncback jobs, which, you know, don’t count) and STILL have high inflation due to devaluing of the dollar….the two concepts are NOT related)., etc.
You obviously didn’t watch the debate. I’m a lifelong Democrat and was ashamed by Biden’s performance.
Unfortunately, the contents of what the said isn’t what will be remembered, it’s the delivery. Trump may have lied constantly, but he spoke clearly and came across as confident. The same can’t be said of Biden.
TVJudger: You are in the first stage of grief – denial. Did you not hear Biden say, “We finally beat Medicare!” Or when talking about abortion, he said women were being impregnated by their sisters. He was talking nonsense! Trump was focused on the economy and the border, what Americans care about the most. That’s what Trump does. That’s what a President does. I learned zero from Biden, except that he is completely incompetent. Again, once you move past denial, you will get angry that the media has been covering for Biden and lying to you.
Trump doesn’t know anything about the economy. The economy is in great shape writ large but corporations are nickle and diming people to hell and back while making record profits. He has zero interest in going after the corporations.
Truthfully, neither of them won.
The Orange Felon told one lie after another, never answered a single question he was asked, and was usually shouting unhinged rants about things that had nothing to do with the topic supposedly being discussed at the time (i.e. spewing lies about “open borders” when he was supposed to be answering questions about abortions, or whatever)
Meanwhile, Biden sounded weak and barely coherent and whether he meant to or not, provided soundbites which will haunt him all the way to November, should he be allowed to continue as a candidate “We finally beat Medicare!!”
And Tapper & Bash (sounds like a bad English breakfast) were 666% useless as moderators.
If the words following “Biden needs to step down and be replaced..” do not include who you think BIden should be replaced with, your not being serious. And if you think the party could pass over Kamala and give it to someone else, you’re just being stupid. Gotta vote for the old guy whose policies I agree with instead of the old guy that only cares about himself and is a convicted felon.
That’s what the DNC is for. It should be an open convention and Vice President Harris can compete for the delegates with anyone else who wants to try for it.
Or, here’s a novel idea – how about the guy who’s actually a convicted felon drop out of the race and his party finds a candidate that isn’t a criminal . I love how Biden is the problem her and not the fact that a guy who tried to over throw a democratic election and is a convicted felon is even still allowed to run for office Am I in the Twilight Zone here?
The media has actually always favored Trump. They want him back just for the ratings alone. They want click bait articles and news headlines. In over 8 yrs the media has never stopped talking about Trump. I actually stopped watching news Tv when Biden won . Just because they couldn’t help themselves from keeping talking about Trump. I actually don’t know of any young people that actually watch Tv new stations.
Trump consistently represents and embodies the “values” of the GOP. He’s a misogynist, he’s a racist, and he’s greed personified. The only place he diverges from those driving the party right now is that they desperately want to impose a Christian theocracy in this country (hi, Louisiana and Oklahoma!), and he doesn’t care one way or the other, since he’s not pious and only cares about staying in power. His cult has and wants to put him in charge again, and in return he’ll help facilitate Gilead. THAT’S why the MAGA Party would never consider swapping candidates. They’re bonded symbiotically. They’re each a means to the other’s end.
That debate last night was pretty disheartening to watch
At this point, we should all frame the election around the question: which administration do you prefer? Biden’s administration or Trump’s? Trump’s administration plans to enact Project 2025 upon taking office, & that should scare everyone. Biden’s administration, though imperfect, is not a threat to democracy.
This is exactly it. It’s the administration as a whole!
Complete B.S. The Trump campaign is not associated with Project 2025 in any way.
HAHAHAHAHA..sure sure
So part of Project 2025 is to replace anyone in government that is resistant to Trump. But it’s not associated with him? Get out of here with the gaslighting.
I watched the Debate last night and what I saw was Very Concerning. Joe Biden looked confused and sickly. If that were my parent or grandparent I would Never have put them in that position. I was hard to Watch this man struggle with even some of the basic questions. It got to the point that he repeatedly said the same thing over and over. I can’t Believe that anyone would do that to a person in his condition. I’m Hoping that Someone will have the Compassion to get him help that he Truly needs. It’s not about what party you belong to it’s about common sense and Respect for the Elderly Man.
They’ll change their minds on Monday. He’s at a rally in NC and he’s killing it. So one bad debate? NO do not step down. That’s just dumb.
Exactly! I loved what he said at the rally! He bounced back quickly!
Seeing how the media is covering this is really grotesque. They desperately want a Trump second term and will twist anything in his favor even though he said some of the most unhinged things last night.
Did Biden perform well? No. Should he drop out? Not unless we want a second Trump term.
Really, you need to do research. 2025 has nothing to do with the campaign. It’s what will transpire if that vile despot is elected as President.
Found it interesting in the list of replacements no one noted VP Harris. I just found it odd.
Honestly I had the same bewildered look on my face as Biden but because I couldn’t get over the BS coming out of Trumps mouth and there was no fact checking on either side other than on the website. I will still take a guy in a wheelchair on a ventilator in a coma over a alley cat
It kills me that after 90 minutes so many people are just turning their backs on Joe. 90 minutes just erased all that he accomplished these past several years?? That’s what you’re trying to tell me.
Make it make sense. I’m not saying the debate wasn’t the greatest but I feel like this reaction afterwards for sure is out of proportion
Exactly – well said
When a person must run 3 times to win that says egomaniac. The WH has become a place for rich bored senior citizens(and useless children) to play. Time for this tacky seniors reality show to end. We need a age limit.
The ladies on the view are idiots. So who cares?
These bedwetting Horrible wenches should be cancelled! Thankfully Ana gets it! Our boy was fantastic at his ralley today! Looked like a new man; spoke strong, clear, enunciated well.
Saddle up family, we’re going forward and we’re gonna win!
The proof of Biden’s ability to run the country is the fact that he is running it. Successfully. Not a debate performance against a pathological lying sociopath.”
Democrats constantly push Trump is a felon but 75 % or more lied on their taxes which is why he was convicted. Joe lied too but only one news station media all his lies
Vote for the party that helps the working person not for the one standing in line for free handouts.
No! Heck No! President Biden shouldn’t step down for another candidate. No other Democrat has done with he has done with his administration. Placing another person, will certainly make us lose our democracy to the maga cult.
A new candidate isn’t battle tested. President Biden is.
‘Dance with the one that brought ya.’ He brought us this far, and I’m ridin’ with Biden!!”