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A collab no one asked for but came together very well. Great pod with Erkang Zheng - former ciso, founder of JupiterOne Davy McAleer - head of code security (Fortinet/Lacework) James Berthoty - Security analyst, Cloud Security engineer Link in comments 1) Initial debate was AI-SPM and CNAPP. We agreed it shouldn't be a new sku as its just additional control to CSPM, DSPM. Also this covers 1st party apps and not the 3rd party apps, so customers shouldn't think they are getting a comprehensive ai security solution 2) We agreed that some of the data and identity issues (access governance) already existed and not new with AI, but AI brings in urgency to solve those, particularly access governance and adding unstructured data sources to DSPM/Data security tools 2) AI security touches multiple tools like CNAPP, Application security (scanning as well as WAF, etc), Data security/ DSPM, Identity, SSPM, etc. We agreed that it makes sense to create a framework that encompasses all the threats, but customers will have to decide if they buy new point tools or full platform or consume these features from existing products. Like do you need an new AI firewall/proxy or do you push your SASE vendor to add support for AI apps? 3) Posture Management: Should Gartner get away from X-SPM taxonomy? My 2 cents is posture management makes sense as we are moving to cloud and posture management covers the infra configuration which is essential. But posture management is not security and you need detection, response and run time for real security. ASPM makes no sense as its not config but mostly vulnerability management 4) IT, Security, Developer disconnect: I see this disconnect thats not helping customers as well as founders/startups. In cloud we started with developers (dev/test workloads) and IT (hence cspm and config) and later ciso's got involved. With AI I see founders talking to CISO's, developers only when CIOs are bringing in AI apps, APIs much faster and those threats need to be addressed first than an AI firewall. Please let us know your feedback and if you want discussion on other topics with this crew.