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Technology investor, Pagabo Group Founder, NXD (on interesting and innovative projects) and indie and alternative music podcaster

HOW DO WE FUND THE NHS BETTER ? So the The Labour Party have said that if anyone has better tax/spend plans they should share them. Heres two ideas for you .... I visited my GP on Monday, and whilst sitting in reception I noticed two posters. Poster 1. Last year there were 9.6m missed GP appointments (1 in 25). The message was "If you cant make an appointment then ring up and cancel the appointment so someone else can use it [the appointment]". It went on to say missed appointments cost the NHS lots of £££ whilst preventing others from necessary care. Notwithstanding the fact that the people who miss appointments are unlikely to read the posters !!! This is a missed opportunity. The solution - apply a charge for missed appointments - £10 = nearly £100m - £20 = nearly £200m Poster 2. Last year the NHS administered 19m FREE flu Jabs. Now some people maybe cant afford to pay, but the vast majority can. Solution - apply a charge (like Boots UK do) - £10 = nearly £200m raised....£20 c£400m. Think what the country could so with an extra c£400m-£600m. These are just two (small examples) ... pretty sure if everyone puts their thinking caps on, we could provide innovative thinking and new ideas to help reduce the burden on the NHS and provide a better landscape and more progressive taxation to help Businesses .... as well as just 'Working People'. Any thoughts Rt. Hon. Wes Streeting MP and Rt Hon Rachel Reeves ? Thish De Zoysa - you will have some great ideas...maybe repost to your eco-system ... #betterNHS #supportingSMES #startups #Innovation

So your forgetting the costs of collection and operation and fact that some people have valid reasons for missing appointments and we have millions in UK not on benefits but in low paid jobs so charging for missed appointments and sadly some employers do not let their staff take appointments inside work hours could mean even more people not accessing services. Most of those free jabs are to those at risk and over a certain age as part of prevention measures charging again means people than do not get access.  

Thish De Zoysa

Chief “Vision” Officer and Founder of Multi-award winning Retail FinTech business.

1mo

Thanks for the tag Gerard Toplass. Frankly I’m flattered! Some brilliant ideas already 👏🏽 All Funding ideas helps but ALL large organisations need regular rationalization reviews. The institution of the NHS should be protected, but must be done so in a commercial and well thought out, sustainable way. So here are some basic thoughts: 1) Even just an appreciation of what services that a person received is a start. For example, an itemized bill of what the treatments WOULD have cost! It’s NOT FREE. Tax payers picked up the tab of all treatment. Let people know the value they’re getting! 2) A token charge should be made through a person’s NI code for a visit (eg. £5/10). All adults legitimately allowed to be in the UK has an NI code. Kids are exempt. Those on benefits wouldn’t be charged. Everyone else, should be having insurance. This would also take care of the collection issue and the Treasury can collect at their leisure as the code would be adjusted accordingly (Charles Cracknell ). I also have ideas around funding state education, if you want to do another post!

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Gary Ian Logan

Global Headhunter - Critical Care equipment/devices & Hospital IT/AI at CSG

1mo

Well the NHS costs nearly £400M a week...you've covered one week in your savings. I like what you mention in your post generally and agree with the majority, I'm all for what you mentioned but it's not even a drop in the ocean and probably does outline the extent of what's actually needed to see noticeable difference in our NHS and the actual scale of the task.

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Anthony Collias

CCO & Co-founder @ Stasher | Forbes 30u30 | Podcast Host (Morality of Everyday Things)

1mo

There's lots I like about the NHS being free, but when it's no longer functioning (I can't get a gp appointment for weeks), we should start to use cash as nudges to deter socially value-sucking behaviour - above 2 (with some caveats I suppose) are totally reasonable examples

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Run the NHS like a business - think about how it’s structured - bring back matrons who know how to run a hospital - sort out the ridiculous IT system which requires doctors and consultants to spend circa 1hr to access a IT station and then does not allow records from paitients to be accessed if created in a different trust. Stop the constant restructuring of management do it once and cut the level of none frontline support staff - 3 receptionists to serve each desk is crackers. If a person is not from UK they should pay up front like we do when abroad. The list is endless. It’s not necessary to charge or tax more it’s about nhs using the funds they get better. They charge enough for car parking where is that money going when I was a child my parents did not pay to park at a hospital. I can’t remember ever seeing them do that anyway. What did the hospitals do back in the day…it feels like there was more of them then and they didn’t have IT to assist but where still ran much better?

Paul Lyon

Engineer who knows about Marketing Strategy and why both are necessary... Link and pitch attempts will result in disconnection so please don't do it.

1mo

The test of any scheme has to be Does it work? Is it cost effective. On 1: no and probably not. It doesn't work because those who miss appointments are usually most in need and least able to pay. For example, if soembody with dementia misses an appointment, should they be fined? It's not cost effective because for less than a tenner, we'd have to assess each missed appointment, what was the cause, who is at fault and collect the money. On 2. A two tier, means tested NHS is not a vote winner. Is the NHS value for money? Against its peers, if favours very well. Is there more money available? That's a political choice. The NHS typically deals with complex cases with comorbities, vulnerable people with multiple needs etc - the stuff private care won't touch.

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John M.

Assistant Manager | Audit & Assurance | All posts made in good faith & do not necessarily reflect the aims/views of my employer

1mo

The NHS need to spend the money they already have better - right now it’s the adult child who has overstayed their welcome in the family home going back to their parents for yet another handout having squandered the previous one. Savings can be made by considering cutting back on the ’nice to have’s’ such as DEI staff and perhaps IVF (controversial for some I realize but both should at least be *considered* as savings). And can the NHS stop sending *letters* you can text or email me and save £millions on postage, have an opt in for letters for those not tech savvy but for the majority text/email is a a good option.

First of all people do not have access to online debt collection or even have full bank accounts so how you going to collect that - send the debt man/woman to knock on doors. Your also missing the point saying things are easy might be for you but not for many in this Country. £10 or £5 for some is a lot of money. I would rather see an increase in taxation and a campaign of understanding than penalising. After all that is why we have society and NHS. 

Gerard Toplass, there you go. You ask for suggestions on improving the NHS, giving two examples yourself. Most comments back are why your ideas cannot/will not work. You can imagine the back and forth between politicians trying to sort this mess out. They will also be restricted in using common sense and logic by their political leanings, which will come first. The NHS needs a complete overall, but it is such a massive organisation it is nigh on impossible. Maybe start by breaking it down, first looking at GP's, then onto A&E, then on to out-patient services, then in-patient services, then post hospital care. There are inefficiencies and mis-management galore throughout every stage that could be eradicated or run better. Keep feeding it money is not the answer, it does not work. How much needs to be invested in it? £1 billion, £10 billion, £100 billion? It is never ending. The public has a responsibility to treat it correctly, but so many do not. Having had a member of my family working in the NHS and talking to good friends also working in the NHS the stories around inefficiencies told are shocking. Nobody wants to take the hard action required or make the hard decisions

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