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Creating more inclusive workplaces, one ally at a time

Since a lot of people are discussing comedians making racist comments at a recent political rally, I want to talk about how to respond when hearing them in our workplace. When I was doing research for my book "Belonging in Healthcare," I interviewed Shikha Jain, MD, FACP. She told me that when she was doing her training, an attending physician would make sexually explicit jokes about her in front of patients and the team. She admits laughing it off to just get through her rounds. Eventually, it got to the point where it was uncomfortable for the entire team. Yet, no one spoke up. Jain told me, “I think it’s because people figured if it wasn’t bothering me, they didn’t need to say anything.” But here’s the thing. As better allies, we should say something. If we don’t, we become complicit in allowing the joking to continue. We send a message that we’re okay with the behavior. So how do you go about speaking up? The easiest way is simply to have scripted responses in your back pocket. In the moment, you might freeze up and doubt yourself, so memorizing a few stock callouts is a great way to prepare yourself to confront inappropriate jokes and comments. Here are a few suggestions: - I don’t get the joke. Can you explain it to me? - I love a good joke, but that wasn’t funny. - Wow, that was awkward. - Did you really just say that? - We don’t do that here. — This is an excerpt from my upcoming “5 Ally Actions” newsletter. Subscribe and read the full edition at https://lnkd.in/gQiRseCb #BetterAllies #Allyship #InclusionMatters #Inclusion #Belonging #Allies 🙏

  • Image with the message, I memorize a go-to response for offensive jokes. Along with some examples: I don’t get the joke. Can you explain it to me? I love a good joke, but that wasn’t funny. Wow, that was awkward. Did you really just say that? We don’t do that here.
There’s also an illustration of a person with a speech bubble, raising their hand as if to say something very important. Along the bottom of the graphic is the @BetterAllies handle and credit to @ninalimpi for the illustration.
Andy Elliott DeRoin (they/them) CDE®

Project Manager for Inclusive Leadership and Employee Engagement Solutions | DEIB Practitioner | PhD Student

4mo

I like "We don't do that here." It is in our hands as employees to uphold a culture of belonging.

Rachel Luxemburg

Lead Customer Community Manager, Cloudinary

3mo

I recently used "We don't do that here" to defuse an antisemitic comment -- it worked.

Depending on the context, and definitely not in an environment where anyone will have been made to feel unsafe by the original 'joke', my go to is: 'I'm not sure I heard you correctly, could you say that again?' More often than not, the person concerned doesn't want to repeat what they've said.

Richard Harris™

4x Salesforce Sales Leader 5x AAiSP Top Sales Leader Teaching revenue teams how to #EarnTheRight to Ask Questions, which questions to ask, and when.

4mo

I find it so ironic that people love to claim "freedom of speech", when they make the joke, but if we retort with any of the above we are then labeled as anti-free speech. Trying to be funny does not mean people cannot call you out on it when it's so blatantly wrong and racist.

Heidi Therese Dangelmaier

I run a global all-girl think tank driving the next wave of Intelligence, Innovation, technology and consumer growth. 0. 12.24 THE ASCENT BEGINS.

4mo

Karen Catlin David Smith If we become so hyper sensitive to everything we will all walk on eggshells and that is not a life that is free, fun or alive Who is the "WE" that gets to decide what is ok? I heard Kamala and Biden call people who like Elon the worst names in the planet. I know people who like Trump that have lost all their friends Is inclusive really inclusive or is it a way of one group controlling what they believe is ok Inclusive did not mean be open.. it has come to mean.. do what we say is kind.. behave how we say is good... If you ask questions say of trans, you are shunned.. even if you ask lovingly... truly lovingly The humor of men and women differs The humor of say asians to asians can be different. The humor of men when they are drunk can be different... If you want to be inclusive then realize that some people say dumb jokes, and let it roll off your back. BUt what does scare me.. is the word GOOD now being used to make a large group of people live in fear #notgirlapproved

✨Rebecca Murray

Transforming Team Talent into Better Listeners, Facilitators, and Presenters | Voice Equity Advocate | Keynoter | Emcee

3mo

We've all witnessed the confusion, disappointment, and shock on people's faces in meetings when untoward comments are made. It IS awkward, especially when made by someone with 'influence over' others. I take it upon myself to connect with the person immediately after and explain why the comment was inappropriate, alienating, and/or offensive. I can't even count the times the 'offender' has been completely shocked that what they said could have been seen as 'anything other than a 'joke' or 'innocent' comment. Often, the 'offender' will issue a heartfelt apology and vow to try harder. (Best case scenario, obviously!) I do love some of these suggestions for immediate feedback. As long we understand that there are some clueless people stuck in the dark ages but genuinely have no ill intent.

The second one is so snarky, I love it! I remember this one time, when I was working with an all-boys team, one of my teammates recounted a sexually explicit joke that another colleague had told him. While the rest of the team laughed, I quickly said “it’s a good thing he didn’t say that in front of me, because I would have reported him.” Safe to say they didn’t feel the need to recount such jokes again.

Michael MacDonald🦻

Manager, Health Services @ Jazz Aviation LP | Health Services, Positive Psychology

4mo

I’ve used, “you’re smarter than that”

Jeremy Schiffer

Law | Strategy | Policy | Public Service | Sharing personal views only - no government endorsement implied or resources used

4mo

The first response here is perfect because it throws responsibility back on the person who told the joke.

Alexandra Lamb

Founder | Performance Coach | Organisational Development Consultant

4mo

How about ‘you can do better than that. I believe in you’ If you shame the other person, they’re more likely to double down, and find other people who like their joke or reinforce their thinking. Find a way to respond that encourages them to grow instead.

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