The Banking Battlefield - An Interview with David Brear

The following article is an adapted transcript based on the audio recording of Episode 7 of the Mr. Open Banking podcast. The audio version is available here.

From the ashes of 2008’s financial crisis arose a new kind of software company. 

A far cry from their enterprise vendor brethren, these new financial technology companies - or fintechs - targeted consumers directly. They provided services that looked a lot like those you usually get from banks, like holding deposits or making payments. They even offered things the banks simply didn’t, like splitting a tab with friends, sending money overseas instantly and automatically investing your savings. 

Perhaps most important, these services were offered without any branches. Riding the wave of the smartphone, these fintechs offered their wares wherever you were - all in the palm of your hand and wrapped in a beautifully designed digital package. 

Traditional banks were not about to take this lying down. Over the last decade, they have poured billions into creating their own mobile banking offerings, trying their very best to emulate these digital natives who seemed to be out-maneuvering them with each new innovation. In more recent years, some big banks have tried to disrupt themselves by launching new challenger brands that are all digital.

In this article, we survey what David Brear calls the banking battlefield: the theatre of combat where these new fintech upstarts wrangle with the big bank heavyweights to see who will capture the future of financial services. 

To explore this battlefield, we are joined by David Brear. David is a bit of a celebrity in the open banking space. He's the founder and CEO of 11:FS, a world-renowned fintech consultancy that focuses on building and launching the next generation of digital propositions for some of the biggest banks in the world. Over the past four years, he's advanced the adoption of open banking globally, often using the key phrase: “We're only 1% finished”. David is also the host of the FinTech Insider Breakfast Show and the FinTech Insider podcast.

Our conversation started with the basics. What exactly is the banking battlefield and what does it mean for both financial institutions and customers? David explains: 

“The banking battlefield is how we explain the confluence of different forces that are happening in financial services right now.” 

A quick introduction to the banking battlefield reveals that it really started after 2008, where the financial crisis eroded much of the banks’ hard-earned trust. Add to that the arrival of the smartphone - a whole new channel for banking - and it was the perfect storm.

Since then, scores of startups have emerged, some achieving coveted “unicorn” status with valuations of over one billion dollars. Meanwhile, the Googles and Apples of the world have also become fintechs and are now actively trying to take a piece of the banking pie.

But the banks have woken up too. The smart ones have already realized that they can’t rely on their old product lines because this leads to, in David’s words, the dreaded commoditization spiral. Instead, they’re going to have to learn to do battle in a radically different way.

An analogy that David often uses to describe the banks’ response to this fintech rebellion is “The Empire Strikes Back”. However, although these big incumbent organizations have large teams of talented and solution-oriented people, there is still something stopping them from moving forward. David explains: 

“While many people in these organizations will say it's the regulator or it’s technology, all it really comes down to is cultural barriers to change. The way in which they’ve always done it is the way in which they feel comfortable doing it next.” 

The big banks may be the Empire, but they still have something the fintechs don’t: trust. It is this trust, this confidence that they will not disappear overnight, that keeps people banking with well-known brands. However, consumer trust does not mean the banks should remain stagnant. 

There are a number of ways that a bank can transform itself. As it moves through this modernization - or this “Empire Strikes Back” phase - it can choose to rebuild its core, disrupt itself with an entirely new digital challenger brand, or find a middle ground by starting to move pieces to the cloud.

For David, choosing just one of these strategies is risky business - to his eyes, success demands a carefully measured and timed blend of all three. JP Morgan Chase is an example of a big financial institution that understands this balance and is actively expanding its strategy to include challengers in both the US and the UK. They are continuously learning to perfect how these different strategies interoperate. 

According to David, at the core of this transformational challenge is addressing the culture and its willingness to adapt. Organizations must have the courage to challenge how they do things today, to try new approaches and to let them fail, to learn from those failures quickly, and to have the rigour to move ahead.

Enabling this kind of transformation is exactly what 11:FS has been doing in the UK and beyond. The UK’s challenger bank environment is disrupting what’s being delivered to customers while simultaneously teaching the old dogs (i.e. the big banks) some new tricks (i.e. great customer experiences). Specifically, 11:FS is teaching them these tricks by applying challenger methodologies to big organizational problems. 

Moreover, David often talks about the difference between simply getting rid of paper processes and moving to relationships. Understanding this dichotomy between digitize and digital is crucial to success as a fintech.

Digitize simply means replacing paper. It’s the process of taking a form that is usually printed out and replacing it with a web form. There is no need here to make the form simpler or the process faster. 

Digital is a completely different animal. To be truly digital, your experience has to be digitally native and built to be digital from the ground up. According to David, that means incorporating 6 key characteristics: real-time, intelligent, contextual, human, extendable and social. 

A digital service must provide real-time live playback and feedback. It must use the intelligence of all available data. It must also understand the unique context of how users are trying to access the service. 

But perhaps the most critical part of what digital needs to do is incorporate humans into the service. Humans have the ability to break down complex processes so they are easy to understand, all while having empathy for the customer. David explains: 

“This isn't about chatbots and artificial intelligence. It's just about talking to humans like humans. And a lot of organizations have forgotten that.”

Lastly, a digital service must be both extendable and social, allowing customers to have banking integrated into their lives, wherever and whenever they need it. 

These delightful, intuitive, and digitally-native experiences have made people fall in love with challenger banks and other fintechs, especially in fast-moving markets like the UK. 

However, some say it’s all hype. Even though fintechs are often celebrated and have amassed huge numbers of customers in record time, the sad fact is that most of their users simply don’t keep much money with them. 

David believes this is because challengers have stumbled into a entirely new category of discretionary spending. Rather than just looking for the best deal, customers are investing in fintechs to feel part of a community and receive an exceptional service - to get that “endorphin hit”, as David describes it - while keeping most of their balances in the incumbent banks. 

Although this might sound like trouble for fintechs, David encourages challengers to stay the course. The big banks we know today started by doing just one thing exceptionally well. It took years for them to build a community around an extensive line of products. 

That’s why building up trust is so important for a new fintech entrant. According to David, the best way to do this is through above-the-line marketing spend. By creating a brand narrative and promise, and then keeping that promise, challengers can enter the consumer’s psyche and slowly form a trusting relationship with them. 

Now, to keep that trust, you have to stay trustworthy. Enter Wirecard: a European fintech that other fintechs actually depend on to offer their services. Recently, Wirecard went through a high-profile, scandal-ridden implosion. 

By contrast, fintechs like Curve and Anna Money have responded to the Wirecard fallout through transparent communication with customers, which David feels is in line with why consumers love them as brands. Now, the only question is where exactly the Wirecard problem stemmed from. David continues: 

“It’s going to be really interesting to see what level of deceit has happened to allow a top four accounting firm to sign off, given that about US$ 1.9 billion of funds were imaginary.” 

In other market activity, Visa and MasterCard have both acquired innovative fintechs at price tags in the billions. According to David, this is a smart (and natural) next step. Visa and MasterCard’s existing products are being commoditized, which means they now need to create differentiation and add value. 

David references Apple as an example, pointing out they didn’t just stick to building computers. By expanding into new products like iPhones and iPads, they were able to fill value voids that most consumers didn’t even realize they had. Through differentiation, big brands like Visa and MasterCard can grow their opportunities and revenues while staying relevant in an ever-changing financial landscape. 

So, it turns out that the big secret is rather obvious: to get customers, you have to offer real value. To keep them, you have to respect them and earn their trust. Those looking for a shortcut will be disappointed.

Offering real value in a world of endless options where your products are being constantly commoditized is not easy. You have to use your imagination to build new and interesting offerings on top of what you already have. 

To keep with David’s computer analogy, people don’t bank to have a bank, at least not anymore. Today, they choose a bank for what it does. Along the same line, what banks can do is greatly enhanced and accelerated by the introduction of open banking. Open banking makes possible the secure sharing of financial data, in turn opening up a whole new universe of combinations and possibilities. 

For David, the changes in the open banking regulatory space have fueled the possibilities for fintechs and big banks alike. Incumbent organizations have always had the resources to expose APIs, but lacked the emotional intelligence to let go of some of that internal and external control. Now, the open banking movement is inspiring a community of fintechs, banks and even brands that have no relevance to financial services at all, who want to drive a fundamental reform of the consumer experience. 

When a client asks David what to do about open banking, he first asks what their consumer problems are. He explains quite simply:

“If you look at the challenges around how most organizations are stuck, it isn't an ideas problem. It's an execution problem.” 

Through microservice architecture and APIs, small teams can accomplish things that used to require hundreds of skilled people. Combining such high-speed delivery with open banking standards leads to a fundamentally different way to serve consumer needs.

David repeats often that it’s important not to talk about what open banking is, but rather what open banking is doing. Essentially, focus on the use cases. One of his favourite use cases is Snoop, an app that uses transactional and market analysis to make suggestions for saving. Then, it makes those suggestions incredibly easy to execute. 

While using Snoop, David didn’t see the term “open banking” once. It was just a service that saved him a stack of cash (and made it simple). Examples like this is why David believes the maturity of the open banking market is near. 

But there is still work to be done if open banking is going to be adopted globally. The basics are in place, but all players - especially the traditional ones - need to continue innovating and trying new things if the industry plans on becoming truly consumer-centric. 

So, if the big banks fighting back against the fintechs are the “Empire Strikes Back”,  then what does “Return of the Jedi” look like, when the fintechs become even stronger? 

According to David, it will all boil down to creating a better outcome for the consumer. With the current momentum of open banking, he also sees customers becoming increasingly more informed. They are starting to understand that they have a greater level of choice in the market. Ultimately, that is the best outcome you can expect from open banking. 

At the end of the day, 11:FS’ mission is to change the fabric of financial services. They want to inform as many people as possible about this movement and cultivate a community around it, which will ultimately make the industry stronger. 

“We will not change financial services on our own. But if we find like-minded people and we pull together the community to make it happen, we've got a bloody good chance.” 

Being a bank today is hard. 

On all sides, they are being disrupted by fintechs: technology upstarts who use small, agile teams to do more with less, bringing solutions to market quickly and cheaply and improving them continuously based on feedback from loyal users.

To keep up with them, banks need to understand that it isn’t an ideas problem; it’s an execution problem. And while updating delivery processes and organizational structures is critical, it is not enough. You have to take a hard look at your culture.

Do you have the emotional intelligence to let go of some elements of control? Are you ready to embrace change?

If so, you can begin to truly innovate. Or to use David’s words, “To help solve consumer problems that the consumer didn't even know that they had.”

That’s the real opportunity for open banking. By letting data flow freely between different service providers, it levels the playing field, creating a foundation to invent entirely new kinds of financial services. 

The real winner here is us - the everyday people who need to bank. In the coming years, we will enjoy more variety, more innovation and more choice in the financial services available to us than anyone ever has before. It's our job to exercise this choice, using this freedom to help our money go further. 

Will the fintech rebellion succeed and lead to a glorious new age? Or will the mighty Empire rise up to crush them? Perhaps, the coming road lies somewhere in between. There’s one thing you can be sure of: open banking will play a critical role in the battles to come, forever changing the face of the banking battlefield.

You can connect with David on LinkedIn and find out more about 11:FS on their website. 

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