Podcast: “At what stage did you decide to take your talents further and develop your own business?”

In late November 2024, I was interviewed by Alyn from the Listen Up Timaru podcast.  Here is an edited transcript of part of that interview.

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Alyn: At what stage did you decide to take your talents further and develop your own business?

Christine: In 1988, I’m working for a company, I’m doing stuff.

That, that internet thing was an aside, it was a side gig. Because I was actually working setting up things like accounts payable systems and stuff like that for a manufacturing company. That was what I did as a programmer. And working on big computers. And then during the 1990s, the early 1990s, people started to realize that well, maybe it would be a good idea to have a web page, whatever that is.

And so during the 1990s I started telling people about this thing that was coming and how it was going to be big. And I was really into, still am, I really the craft of quilting. And, which is a bit of an aside that I didn’t tell you about earlier…

Anyway quilting. And I would be talking to quilting businesses or craft businesses in Australia, and I’d be saying it’d be a really good idea if you had some sort of an internet presence so that people could find you. And so some of my first clients were people who wanted just one, page on the internet that said where their shop was.

So I started setting those up. I started using a thing called Microsoft Front Page at one stage which was really advanced for me because before that I just set up using HTML.  They were ugly websites, man. They were awful, but anyway, they worked and they did the job because they told people “This is a quilting shop, this is what we sell, this is how you find us, this is our opening hours, this is our phone number.”

Alyn: Was it quite hard to convince a business to invest in, in a new technology market?

Christine: I didn’t charge very much. I started off charging $50 for a web page and that was it. And and then of course, once one of them’s got one and they say, “Oh, that worked, I’m getting a whole lot of phone calls from that.”

Then the next one down the road would want one and the next one would want one. And I would go to the big quilting shows, where they’d have lots of people with stands there. And I’d go to one of them and say, “That person down there’s got a webpage, and they’re doing really well.  Do you want one? It’ll only cost you 50 bucks.”

So once I’d built quite a few of these things, I started upping my prices. But also, technology grew, and it started becoming not just one page but multiple pages, so a website rather than a webpage.

And then, after a while search engines came out. One of the early ones was AltaVista… So people would want to be found on these search engines. And, so one of the things, so for those who are not sure what a search engine is, a really good example now is Google. … Google’s the big kahuna now.

But … you need to be able to be found on a search engine. These days there’s a thing called SEO, which is Search Engine Optimization, which you can do a course on SEO. You can probably do a university degree on it for crying out loud. But these days you can learn how to do it. But back then, nobody really knew.

So I had to work out how do we get the web page onto the search engines. And what’s best practice, and what are they going to and what are they not going to that sort of thing.

Then after a while after that, social media came along. So there was, “How do we use social media to make our business better?”

Because as the name implies, social media was originally just for people to talk with their friends, it was social. But these days, as you’ve got all sorts of social media type things.

Another development that came on was SMS marketing or text message marketing. So that is, that was really big, it still is, I still do a lot of that with clients.  Not in New Zealand because of the rules here, but that’s a whole other story.

And another thing which became came to my attention about 12 years ago was AI. Back then, you could actually download code. Because I’m a coder, so I can understand it.  You could download code that you could then manipulate to make your own little AI machine.

Not as great as what ChatGPT is now. But you’d use it, and you could train it to know things, and you could ask it things, and it would spit things back to you, and stuff like that.

I played with that for oh, about the last 12 years or so. That was really cool. And these days of course, all of these things, all work together, so you can now have a website with a chat thing on it, a little chat widget on it that asks you questions, that you ask questions, the visitor asks questions, and it knows the answers because it’s run by AI, and it can also help you to …make a booking to go to the website.  Make an appointment or whatever. So it can do all of these things.

Alyn: Yeah, I notice a lot of websites now do have these little chat bots with them. Now only that you if you’re getting stuck with anything, you can just chat to it.

Christine: What if that website was for a plumber, for example, and the plumber has fed his calendar into the system.  And so the person says are you able to come and fix my pipe on Tuesday at two o’clock. And the chatbot says yep, we can do that and books it in.