The Power of Community: What Makes Some Thrive & Others Die

Communities are all the rage these days, and rightfully seen as a high-leverage way to engage customers, prospects, partners and many more audiences. So why do some communities stick and others sputter?

Last Friday's CMO Coffee Talk featured a robust discussion about community best practices - how to get them started, what makes the best ones thrive, how you can unknowingly kill them, and much more.

Chat highlights from both sessions last week are below. And thank you again Heather Foeh and Jocelyn Brown for sharing and leading. If you are a B2B CMO or head of marketing and want to join a community of 1300+ of your peers, let me know!

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How’s everyone’s RKO meetings going?

We had to do our RKO completely virtual, but it went really well!

We are doing a 2 phased RKO - virtual / education based in Feb, and in person FUN / team building in Mar/April.

Our company Virtual kickoff went well, high marks on post event survey. We moved our physical company kickoff to 2H in July and are calling it Summer of Fun

We are working on launching community this year, I have seen the value of what this can do for companies (Eloqua, Hubspot, Rapid7) and don’t want to wait until we need it.

With every brand aiming to build communities, how do you build something that doesn’t feel like one more thing? Also - anyone had great luck building a business case for headcount/resources?

I made the case for resources/headcount/tools through numbers - how many posts were needed to drive what level of engagement/action, listening, writing etc based on A/B testing and performance as well as competitive intelligence

We just did a 2-yr look back on our community - 70% of Closed Deals attended events, 67% of Clients that expand contracts attended events. Stats like that get me more resources!

Shared pain is the greatest catalyst for these things.

Our community manager and some of our TAMs have to continue to post, prod and poke, we have incentives in there for participation that we are using to juice participation

I think the challenge of having multiple community managers across different functions is having a consistent voice and protecting the brand.

At my last company I had a full time Director of Audience Engagement and Community who “owned” the community we built. It was very helpful in the first few years to have one name/face watching everything, enforcing community rules, and encouraging participation.

Pro tip - make sure to seed enough champions initially so the community will be artificially active right off the bat, once enough people join and engage it takes a life of its own, but initially you have to avoid the chicken and egg syndrome as no one wants to join a “dead” community

We treated our MVPs like rockstars - exclusive Roadmap, invite dinners with the dev team, MVP SWAG not available to others

ZenDesk is our self-help center, SkillJar is our online training engine, Influitive is community and gamification.

Beware of too many tools and context switching for your customers, we are now wrestling with streamlining the many tools. And make sure you have single sign on.

We also had a gamification element that incentivized community members with potential swag or tickets to events, etc. It SORT OF worked, but the issue was that it wasn’t fully integrated into the community. We built the community on Facebook, which worked well because lots of our members were already spending time there so it didn’t require them to go somewhere else to interact BUT that meant we couldn’t use native gamification tools.

If the gamification requires people to go to another platform or tool, in my experience, its not going to work well.

We build a whole program behind it - used Influitive - when they post, engaged, read, shared, etc… they earned points - and points got them to certain levels - and depending on points/badges, they can redeem points for a variety of things - swag, lunch, convo with r&d/product teams, with GMs/leadership, registration to user conference and other major industry events…etc

Getting customer feedback is a step many folks skip when it comes to building a community. So important!

Some things that we found helped to gain momentum were having an email newsletter that was sent weekly to recap what’s happening in the community, call out (in a good way) active members, highlight certain posts, etc. Also having live events within the community, and then certain structured themes around what to post when (ex. A weekly jobs post). That consistency created a rhythm within the community that got people engaged.

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I pulled our communities into marketing from the support team 2 years ago - best decision ever! They still measure support ticket deflection.

We linked Influitive to ROI (reference platform) so helped us connect the dots to sales impact as well.

Using community to speed onboarding and license consumption, reduce churn, drive expansion

We have a marketing-run community geared toward audiences in media & entertainment. As they are 3D artists, they love to show off their work!

We debated to what extent to make the community about “the product” vs “the industry” - we opted for mostly the former, but I guess it also depends on how crowded any industry is in terms of watering holes.

It takes a really special person in the role of community manager, someone that truly cares about and protects the community members, and not about the conversion/upsell/dollar. That will all come naturally when someone gets to know community members.

Our community lead is a former teacher, leading a community of teachers.

"We cant pursue a strategy of differentiation when we measure ourselves with how similar we are to everyone else"

I feel like Eloqua TopLiners was one of the first “quality” B2B marketing communities I experienced (solid community, content, engagement).

Topliners was a game changer. I learned everything Eloqua in my early Marketing Ops days thanks to the wonderful community.

I chose Eloqua 4x because of the community alone..

Community is critical for ANY product lead growth strategy. If you don't believe in your product enough to have the community talk about it, you're in trouble...

There is high value in exclusivity. The idea of having access to something others don't drives growth.

Building a strong community is grounded in building connective tissue between members. I’m sure that’s one of the reasons this group is so strong (and well attended).

As we build our community we’re getting asked already by our investors how this is going to increase customer revenue and can we quantify how much and by when. It’s interesting how much time has to be spent on goals of the community.

I am in another community on another platform that I have to learn and it’s just TOO hard. Communities need to play in the medium where the most users are!!

Seems like gamification is likely less important as the titles in the community get more senior. I am not part of this community for the swag, im here for the brain power it gives me access to.

Product Management using the Marketo community to source new roadmap ideas & features, and actively showing that they were doing so, were a big driver of Marketo’s success.

A strong community manager is really good at helping see the opportunities to create the connective tissue (eg, make great introductions, steer people to a resource they need at that time)

Much better to have a happy customer or power user answer the question than a company spokesperson.

Your job as a party host is not to make conversation with the guests, it’s a good party when the guests are engaging with each other.

Community = a structured way to drive organic networking.

It's a community when the members help each other. It's a "followship" if a small team is answering all the questions...

In the Forbes Council community the community managers tag a bunch of people on who might be able to answer a person’s question.

In my last role, someone was slamming us on FB and we said nothing (and it was HARD not to)...our customers came to our rescue and "answered" the disgruntled person

“present incomplete ideas and let community build on it” — gem!

That was the smartest thing Marketo ever did. Was every Revvie submission was publicly PR approved content. Didn’t require any other approval flow for Marketo to be able to use it in a case study.

Powerful weapon against churn, as well. I’m not just replacing a piece of software. I’m losing _friends_.

Community ROI is naturally lumpy (not really straight line), but it is predictable. Tough to say the # of months/years to positive ROI - depends on a lot of variables.

It took me 8 months to jump into the CMO Coffee Talk community because I had been pulled into several other CMO groups around the same time. Only took one Friday call for me to know I would stop participating in the others and spend my time here.

We’re building a community for the CHRO. HR tech is at a very similar moment as martech was, esp. when the CMO because a decision maker/buyer. I suspect one of the reasons external communities are flourishing are what we touched on earlier, esp at larger companies—high conservatism w/ privacy, legal concerns, etc. To that point, we’re running our CHRO group on Zoom and even on LI (our top competitor in the Enterprise space!) and in person when we’ll be able to—b/c even w/ Slack, we face legal/privacy barriers.

You also have to have cross-functional commitment. Successful communities are built by the company, not the marketing team.

Like all things, gotta figure out the early wins to buy you time to real proof and success.

Reduction in tickets and cases is first. Net ARR improvement TTM is the ultimate,

Yes yes 👏🏻 why you need a CEO /CFO that understands the balance in marketing between short term results and long term bets to make future short term goals easier.

FWIW we kind of did a CAB + Community first together (informally pulled together a group of quality/engaged customers and used them as a focus group to spec and co-build the community, then used them to seed it; then converted them into a CAB once we launched Community. Followed w/ user groups, product groups and more tactical stuff.