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Alright, so we're here in London and we're having a little bit of a different interview, but with Naveed and Becks, and we're gonna talk about, yeah, some of the things that are changing. What are you seeing? How is B Grid tackling some of the things coming up? What is maybe I think. One thing I saw in you talking to someone was you were very transparent, very honest about what, what could be done what what maybe was a little bit trickier. I love your transparency and coming from the Netherlands, we need that right? So in that. Let's ask our first question. What are you seeing this year as opposed to past years? What are you, what are you kind of seeing as the change in the market? I think there's a good focus in the market in terms of trying to understand this, what ESG actually means, what sustainability is and how that affects the building. But also we're moving towards asking the question, what are the user actually? What are they? What are they getting out of it? So it's not just putting technology into a building because it's gonna make it smart and maybe raise the rent. We're actually, do the tenants really want the smart technology building? What do they want out of it? So it's not just deploying it just for the sake of it, it's actually understanding. What the users want and that that something that I've said often is. Changing the way that the building adapts to the people and the users are not making the users adapt to the building. And I heard that like a year ago or something from someone, but I think that's really crucial point. And thank you for making the comment about being honest. I think there's a lot of people have been burnt with technology who have people have provided in all walks of life technology. They've said this is what you can do. But actually when it's delivered, it's not really there or it needs an upgrade or it needs this on that to do it. So I think being transparent to what we can do, what we can't do really helps to deliver a functional, sustainable building. And that's what we need in the environment. And begs you probably love hearing putting the user first, you know, you, you as a consultant in this space, you have a very powerful voice in this space. How does that make you feel when David says that, you know, it's so excited because I think a lot of the technology that we're seeing right now unfortunately hasn't got the end user in mind. And that's the gap. And that's the problem that we're trying to kind of solve for the fact that with your systems, you can actually as an end user, just adjust temperature to your own liking, light into your own like it. I mean, that's streets ahead of other technology. I've seen, and I think that if we want people to come into the workspace, we've gotta cater for every single different type of person that comes into the workplace and giving you as the end user a bit of an element of control over that. It's just gonna make an exciting experience basically coming back to the workplace. I love that. OK, so what's next? I know that's the easy question, but I think you're actually a really good person to ask in that. So what are you excited about? What are you proud of? What's coming next? Well, I'm really excited about. Now technologies in general, including ours, can work with other technologies to actually deliver something that works in unison. To deliver those needs at the requirements of the users because they change, You know, we deliver buildings based on user requirements or we build it, we design it and deliver it. But quite often once it's delivered, it's out of date. So how do we continuously improve that? And we can only do that by working together. And there are more of a sense of. The bigger players wanting systems are open and not siloed because if it's siloed then it stops you innovation, stop the adaptation of technology, you know. So from that sense and I'm just excited to see how things develop and I remember dial up. And how far we come from there. What's gonna happen in another 10 years, You know? So that's gonna be quite an interesting ChatGPT AI copilot. You know, it's, it was like a thing. Now it's not and it is a thing again. That'll be interesting to see where that goes. When I love that idea of doing something and, and seeing it through. Becks and I just finished a panel where someone said, ohh, we, we were booking our meeting room and the CO2 was too high. So it kicked us out of the meeting room and how annoying. But Becks and I actually said, but what did they do about this CO2? Right. So, so about this half, half kind of doing half the job Max. Can you? Yeah, I mean, it's disjointed, right? You want to make sure that, you know, if the space isn't accessible, like the CO2 is too high. Why would you wanna be in it? That's the bit that I was struggling to Africa, you know, comprehend within that conversation because for me you should be kicked out, but you should be finding alternative room to go to. Like the circle hasn't been closed out with that. And I think that's the challenge that's gonna get a friction based reaction from the end user. They're gonna not support the the whole technology and then not be supportive of anything else that might come further down the line. So I think that full implementation, integration and connection of all the different systems is the bit that sometimes we're missing when we're implementing. That whole you know about than I do, That neurodiversity, How's it gonna affect someone that you've been kicked out of room? How did that make them feel? There's a lot of things behind that and, and, and people. Connect with neurodiversity in many different ways. You know, it affects them a lot or it doesn't, and you know, all walks of life. So that's quite an interesting point. I love that, and that's actually a great interior to some of the research I'm gonna do, which I'm not going to talk about now, but just wait and see. Thanks so much for chatting with me. It's always a pleasure with both of you. All right, thanks guys. Thank you.